/ 7 November 2003

One half of OutKast speaks out

As he sits, cradling a large bottle of mineral water in the restaurant of a

London hotel, Andre Benjamin is difficult to miss. In fact, he’s visible

from the lobby. This is largely due to his hair, a sort of deconstructed

afro that bears a passing resemblance to the coiffure of the Simpsons

character Sideshow Bob. It adds a good 30cm not just to his height, but

also to his width. Waiters are forced to manoeuvre around it.

Benjamin cuts a rather curious figure in the restaurant, but then again,

you suspect that he cuts a rather curious figure wherever he goes. While

his partner in Atlanta-based duo OutKast, Antwan ”Big Boi” Patton, is the

epitome of the southern-American rap star – a portly, blunt-smoking playa

famed for having a lapdancer’s pole in his home and an aquarium full of

sharks in his garage – Andre 3000 may be the most anomalous star in

hip-hop’s long history.

Softly spoken and courteous to a fault, he is delightful company. His

answers are usually preceded by lengthy pauses, during which he sighs,

strokes his goatee beard and composes his thoughts. This is not normal

behaviour for a rap superstar. In a world of weed-addled, champagne-sipping

fast-food lovers, Benjamin is a vegetarian yoga enthusiast who paints in

his spare time and has foresworn all intoxicants because ”I was abusing it

too much, I didn’t think I could last long doing that, so I had to chill

out”.

His musical predilections are equally outre by hip-hop standards. He is

unimpressed by his fellow rappers: ”Hip-hop don’t have no fresh energy,

none at all. It’s money driven, everybody tryin’ to make that cheque,

nobody putting art in their albums any more.” Instead, his tastes

currently run to the noisy ”drill’n’bass” techno of Squarepusher and the

Aphex Twin, the Ramones and the Buzzcocks’ stripped-down punk, plus the

Strokes and the Hives. ”I took my DJ to the Strokes concert last

Wednesday,” Benjamin says, smiling. ”My DJ, y’know, he’d never been to a

rock concert before. I don’t know if he understood it really.” There’s a

pause. ”Actually, he fell asleep.”

Then there is the small matter of his dress sense. He long ago eschewed the

standard hip-hop uniform of sportswear and designer labels in favour of a

unique look he dubs the ”gentleman rebel”. Today he is wearing an outfit

that teams a multi-coloured tie-dyed t-shirt with a pea coat monogrammed

with his initials. By Benjamin’s standards, this constitutes dressing down.

He chose to promote their last album, 2001’s Stankonia, by donning a long

platinum wig and a flowery dress – a staggering move given hip hop’s

famously unenlightened attitude to homosexuality. He has also been seen in

a pair of billowing plaid golf pants with bow tie and elaborate pink hat.

He is presumably the only rapper on earth who collects antique silk

scarves.

”I think it’s real important to show style now,” he says. ”The

majority of style right now is to act like you don’t have style at all, so

most companies are getting rich off clothes that look torn, clothes that

look worn. I think it’s important to dress again. I think that’s very

important. It’s just great showmanship and style. I think it goes back to

African tribes. They’re always elaborate, they got face paint and beads and

dirt in their hair and shit, making them look like something else. You look

in the mirror everyday and you see the same thing. As an entertainer, you

wanna see something new, know what I mean?”

And, quite aside from the clothes and the abstemious behaviour, there is

the music that Benjamin makes. OutKast have spent a decade releasing a

series of increasingly psychedelic hip-hop albums – Stankonia won a Grammy

and spawned their biggest British hit, the superlative Miss Jackson – but

those provide scant preparation for their latest release. Speakerboxx and

The Love Below are two solo albums packaged as a set. The first, the work

of Big Boi, is clearly the follow-up to Stankonia: taut, funky psychedelic

hip-hop with witty lyrics and guest appearances from Jay-Z and Ludacris.

However, The Love Below, Benjamin’s effort, bears almost no resemblance

to hip-hop. He describes its sound as ”real cool – like, if it hadda be a

colour, it would be a violet type of blue”. In fact, it careers between

genres with breathtaking dexterity and self-assurance. Among its vast array

of sounds, it includes a version of Rogers and Hammerstein’s My Favourite

Things set to clattering electronic beats, libidinous Prince-influenced

funk, a frantic and supremely catchy piece of folky psychedelia (current

single Hey Ya), a bleakly touching number featuring Benjamin’s mother

reflecting on his absent father, bursts of lounge-crooner jazz and a

lengthy skit in which Benjamin adopts an English accent that he rightly

describes as ”just terrible”. There may yet be a better album released

this year, but it seems unlikely.

The Love Below began life as a soundtrack to an as-yet-unmade film about

a young man’s romantic adventures in Paris. Much of the album concerns

itself with the quest for domestic contentment. It’s a topic that seems to

have preoccupied Benjamin since the end of his relationship with soul

singer Erykah Badu; Miss Jackson dealt with the effect of their break-up on

the couple’s son, the colourfully named Seven Sirius.

Benjamin becomes rather wistful when the subject is brought up, a change

of mood indicated by a particularly vigorous outbreak of sighing and

beard-stroking. ”I think about that a lot, but I don’t know if I’m chasing

the right thing, y’know?” he says. ”I don’t know if God intended you to

be with one person and just cut yourself off for the rest of your life. In

hip-hop, people don’t talk about their vulnerable or sensitive side a lot

because they’re trying to keep it real or be tough – they think it makes

them look weak. That’s what the Love Below means, that bubbling-under

feeling that people don’t like to talk about, that dudes try to cover up

with machismo.”

However, the album’s quality and subject matter has been overshadowed by

questions about OutKast’s future. Despite the success of the

Speakerboxx/The Love Below set – in the US, it sold 750,000 copies in its

first two weeks of release – its split nature has led to speculation that

the duo’s days are numbered, fuelled by Benjamin’s dramatic pronouncements

that he was on the verge of quitting the music industry altogether to

pursue a career in acting. (He is slated to star as Jimi Hendrix in a film

of the guitarist’s life directed by the Hughes Brothers, who made From

Hell, Dead Presidents and Menace II Society.)

Today, he is more guarded: ”I don’t think music is something you just can

quit,” he frowns, ”but sometimes you have to take a break from what

you’re doing to find love in it again”. However, anyone looking for clues

to OutKast’s future might note that he talks about the duo in the past

tense. ”The way it was between me and Big Boi, it made the sound – we did

great works, man – but I just know my own personality and I got to find new

things to do. OutKast now, it’s like a double album. What’s the most

natural thing to do from there? I don’t know. There’s always a possibility

that we’ll get together again. Contractually, we have three more albums to

do for Arista Records, so we’ll definitely try to complete those.”

If they do split, it will mark the end of a relationship that began at high

school in East Point, Georgia and has endured for 13 years, despite brushes

with the law – the duo had a brief phase of car-stealing during their teens

– and Benjamin’s eccentric approach to fashion. He admits that the latter

put a particular strain on their friendship. ”When we first came out we

looked totally normal, but after our second album (1996’s ATLiens), I just

got bored. I bought this turban and started to wear it. Thought it looked

cool. I started buying one-of-a-kind things from thrift stores . . . I had

girls who were making things for me, these outfits I drew.

‘I don’t think the hip-hop community had ever seen anything like it

before. They didn’t understand what the fuck was going on. The record

company would say to Big Boi, ‘Hey, talk to him.’ He’d tell me the shit

they were saying, but at the same time, it was new to him. He’d come along

to photoshoots and I’d show up with all this – this shit and he’d be stood

there like, ‘What the fuck am I supposed to do?’

”I remember the first full-on photoshoot where there was a total change.

We had disagreements. I gave all the concepts and ideas to the

photographer, like, ‘Yeah, we gonna be in the sunflower field, there’s

gonna be these girls and they gonna have their faces painted and they’re

gonna have this silver shit on, like women from space.’ So Big Boi comes

along and he’s like, ‘What the fuck? What am I gonna do? I’m gonna look

like a fucking fool here!”’ He smiles. ”A lot of pictures didn’t get

taken.”

Whatever OutKast’s future, Benjamin has no shortage of projects on the go.

There’s the films and two new clothing lines, one for children and one

offering both ”outlandish signature pieces and clothes the common man can

wear”. He talks idly of forming a jazz-influenced band, releasing an

instrumental album and ”getting into things that an OutKast fan would not

expect”. Given that the average OutKast fan has come to expect wildly

esoteric musical statements from a man given to dressing like Chris Eubank

after a disastrous experiment with psychedelics, that’s an intriguing

concept. Benjamin chuckles. ”Right. It’s like, what the hell would an

OutKast fan not expect? But right now, I feel like I have a mission.”

And what precisely would that mission be? ”I have no idea,” he sighs,

stroking his beard again. ”I have no idea. I have no idea. But I know I’m

not finished just yet.” — COPYRIGHT: GUARDIAN NEWSPAPERS LIMITED 2003